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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:52 pm    Post subject: Furry Reply with quote

Medic here with a question or two about Furryness!

I am questioned by certain aspects of a Furry. For example, they say everone is allowed and should be accepted for their differences, yet being human is looked down upon. Why is this so?

Another thing that bothers me is why do some furries think that if everyone was a furry, the world would be great and joyfull! I find the truth to be far from that. The constent flow of energy that moves from the death of one to the life of another is what keeps this world alive. If no one ate meat, we would all starve because all the plants would be no more!

If you feel ok with sharing your own outlooks on a "furry world," or furryness, than please do so.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...ARGH

All right, yeah. I can see where you'd get this vibe nowadays.

First of all: being human isn't...looked down upon, per say. I guess the avatar thing was what brought that up. Don't worry bout it.

I agree with the meat point, plus the world would be overrun with animals!

Honestly, I'm getting sick of everyone fighing on here.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The world would be overrun with animals!! You know, untill they all starved than died- than it would be more of a lack of animals. Good point Ginny!

I too am sick of fighting as well, I belive this should be settled in a tourment! Free for all deathmatch!... *Look at everone* >.> Ok on second thought, make it a Limbo Contest! Sounds fair to me. ^-^ (No long-jumps/curling/hurtals/sprinting!)

Thank you for clearing up the whole Human thing, I thought we were suppost to hate them or something! Worries=Gone.

Has anyone ever wondered anything about the furry world? Share your ideas/thoughts/questions if you want to. (Thank you!)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Furry's A? As for me I take it all as more of an interest group then a way of life. Come to think of it I don't really take anything as a way of life. Except just trying to live. Learning is important but there is too much to learn for one life time. Then we die. I don't think there is anything after death so to me trying to learn all before one goes seems a waste of time. I would rather just live and learn enough to do that well and anything else to satisfy my sense of curiosity. To me furry's is a curiosity and something I enjoy. I think and one would hope all hear and at any other furry site has no false illusion that any of us is any thing else but people (human people) sharing in a common interest in a rather imaginative way and try not to take any of this furry busyness all to serious. That is my take on it. Any thing more is left to up to what each of us add to it for fun. To me it is all Role playing with a mix of real life mixed in. And there you have it.

As far as being accepted as anything well that always depends on the groop and how one behaves or looks in it. Online looks don't mater as much or at all. But how one works with how the group works is kind of key to how one is receved by the group. You would not wont to go on line to a all out Harley Bike site then start chatting about stocks in raisins or talk about baby furrs and expect to be accepted there. It is the same anywhere.

Humans not being accepted hear well that is an easy one. Some if not many are not happy with the way in which people live and behave. I am one. More so when I was younger but for those in which this is the case then partaking in the furry fandom or any fandom is for them a form of escapee and trying to add the human element to it only defeats the purpose of that for them. But we are human so adding the human element to it is in a way to be expected. Making animals acting human or doing human things or haveing human things is case in point. I guess what some are looking for is something different without to much of what we don't like about the human race. Greed, Prejudice, The freedom to feel what we wont without shame of for what we are. And a chace to express ones self in a manner that might be harder any other way. The human presence hear or at any furry site is like throwing an angry violent guy with a gun shooting it everywhere in with a group of kids just trying to have fun. It just kills the mood for many there very quick. That is I feel is why some don't even like to even see the word human on these sites unless it is for the purpose of bashing. Despite the fact we all are human. As some mite say just becouse we are human dose not mean we have to like it or other humans. Some don't wont to be human. Even I would have to admit being amongst humans life would be much harder being viewed as anything else but human. Depending on where you are and just what you did look like being and living as a true anthro would prove to be impossible. Those of us that don't like the human race knows this to be true. And is in part of why they don't like the human race. But if true anthroues did exist who is to say they would not behave any different? I don't think any could say. So beeing a true anthro might not be any better. But for some one can only hope and dream otherwise dispite it all.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoooaaaa there G-Fox! That is a bit much for me... @.@

Now I might be crazy, but I allways thought... no no, I must not tell! I can not tell, will not tell. For the tale told be the teller, I am telled- or so told, would be active in the telling of the told words I must not tell, would result into untold madness, or so I have been telled or told.
I really dont think I should tell, it's a matter of trust- do I trust you? Hahahaha, how would you know if I trust you?! Of corse I do, do I?
Yes I do! As I trust all of you here. The real question is do I trust myself to trust you...
Allright, I will tell you. Indiffernt of the tellings actions I was told by me!
--I, might view things as they are not. As such is this! Am I the only one who feels like your not where you once was? As if the computer itself has dragged you into a completly new world! It is crazy, what I speek of- the fourm being something all on it's own, a place possible to go to and we do go to! A book is no differnt to me, compared to where we are right now. I become something that is inside of the book, along with whom else might be here, like you G-Fox! A book needs a setting, so where are we? Zafurria, that is where I am.
I apoligize for the long post, as I am likely to tell you more of the mind that I live in. Reamber, I trust you- Yet I cant tell you everything, I dont know why, myself will not allow it.
A dobble post has a high chance of occuring, so please post and feedback or really ANYTHING you want to say about what you think!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Medic you are right I am not where I once was. Nor am I all the same as I once was. I agree I too at most times feel apart of a story I am reading almost like I am there. That's why a story like Redwall appeals to me. I can get caught up in it.

I think I can sense you have something perhaps important to you that you may wont to say. A question of yours "do I trust myself to trust you.." I say no one can say but you. Do you feel that you have trusted someone before and was betrayed? That is a hard thing to get over. I can't tell you anyone or even I my self can be trusted. That is something for you to determine for your self. And only if it is worth it for you to get something troubling off your back and feel this is the place for that or any one hear. Like Tecoon or Sarafina They might be a good place to start.

As what you have said about me "It is as if the computer itself has dragged you into a completely new world!" In a way yes but that was so long ago and I am still hear. If that dose not freak you out. Everything is not all what it might seam and is all left up to interpretation. Exspechaly hear on the net. Everything can only seam what you make of it and alow your view room to change. For not everything stays as it once was and so your view of things should change over time as well. Do as you wish with the time we have.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh, Redwall. ^-^ A good book it is.

Everything is not all what it might seam and I left up to interpretation, so I should never imagine myself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what I were or might have been was not likewise than what I had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise! A grand point G-Fox, well taken to me your point is.
What do you propose we wish to do with the time that we have?
It is hard for me to answer your posts, as allways... I dont know why, but I think you think not the same think as I might think I am thinking.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not fully sure by what you meant by that. I don't remember stating that one should not be other then what others around you make of you. Just be your self. Unless you truly prefer to be what others think you are. I guess it could help to go with there interpretation. Unless they happen to be right about you. Then I guess no one is pretending. ??? I am not sure how this is going. I think you are right we may not think the same. My mind is asking for help right about now. "help me! help me! fizel&*#$%@ crash *.* Aaaa that is not good!"

As far as what we should do well, I say we should carry on as usual around hear if every thing is status quo. And I hope so.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not "Not be other than what others think of you," but you must NEVER IMAGINE yourself NOT to be OTHERWISE than what it MIGHT APPEAR to others that what you Were or Might of been is not the same as what you allready appear to be! X.X It is hard to explain... Now I confused my mind trying to help your mind!

I too hope that we carry on as usual, I would hate to see Zfurry die... I can not see it die... Ya G-Fox! You have inspired me to post!!! AND POST I SHALL!

Errrrr.. Did you even answer my first question? If it even was a question, a weird question at that! What is the setting of Zfurry? What is Zafurria like?! Do you know?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zFurry or Zafurria Well, I can only give my own impression of it. Of course any one hear can give there input on this. Tecoon or Sarafina mite be the best to answer this one. For me it is one of many stops on my travel's on the net to find furrrys. And I do mean one of many! The list of other sights almost seams endless. One new site I find seems to give me a link to others I have not seen. I have been at this for up to 6 or more years and must have found a hundred or more sites and well over 100,000 furrys in all. and I believe I have only scratched the surfus. Think of all the would be furrys out there that dose not yet even know about us or have not spoke out in one way or another that they them selves are in some way a furry even un known to them that they might just be one. It would take some time to make a list of even a few of the sites I have found. Zafurria as you call it is kind of a gathering of furrys. A rather small group compared to some. And mostly filled with younger aged furrs then I have seen on any other sites. Many so many are adult oriented furry sites like Yiff Stare. That one is mostly for stories and some art and a chat room. Then there are some of the larger ones for art like VCL. In a way Zafurria is like Cheers in that it is a place you wont to go where every one knows you name and there always glad you came.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are at a bar? Zafurabar!?
I think of some crazy things, but a bar!? That's off my list! I dont think animals are allowed at bars, I dont think that is fair! What if a deer wanted a drink after a day of... Deering... Doing.. deerish stuff!? That is fair = false. FALSE IS NOT TRUTH! Unless the truth is false.
Because it is true that something can be false, but something that is false is not true.

It seams like you are well-traveled in the world of furs, G-fox. Could there really be that much furs in the world? Mabye... Deep down, everyone is a fur, part in fact due to everything being an animal. If being anthro is being what it is that we are than are we not what are!? I am glad for you G-fox, I am glad for everyone here! I am glad I know your name, and that you came to Zfurry. Cheers!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:46 am    Post subject: Re: Furry Reply with quote

Medic wrote:
I am questioned by certain aspects of a Furry. For example, they say everone is allowed and should be accepted for their differences, yet being human is looked down upon. Why is this so?


That is one of the easyest to awnser. As you have noteced we furs act as the animal we feel mach better with ower personality. That sort of gives us a natural need to protect that specie and the species that compose the same ecosystem that owers live in and that depend on to survive.
Humanity destroys everything from the planet they live on to them self. Humanity cant see clearly how life realy is, they cant define correctly whats wrong and right. To them life means Money above all wile to us Furries Love and life its self is above all.
Iv got to many things to say about humanity but i will keep the rest to my self. I think iv said more then enough for you to understand wh y the look down.

Medic wrote:
Another thing that bothers me is why do some furries think that if everyone was a furry, the world would be great and joyfull! I find the truth to be far from that.


I think my comment posted above says why.

Medic wrote:
The constent flow of energy that moves from the death of one to the life of another is what keeps this world alive. If no one ate meat, we would all starve because all the plants would be no more!


From the earth we come and to the earth upon death we return. There are many creatures on Earth that wouldnt make good furs and would probably be the main food source on the planet. Examples would be fishes and even insects wich is currently being explored in some countries as food source.

I wonder what you ment with the phrase "plants would be no more!"?

If furries roamed the world, there probably would be five times more green on the planet and food wouldnt be something hard to gather.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Fillipe, you have some good points there. The they raise more questions for me!
While an enviorment with everyone living in love and peace sounds great, I agree completly, it does have many problems.

This natural need I hear about, to protect the ecosystem spicies... It might be a bit differnt than you might think. In order for an ecosystem to function correctly, it *needs* animals to protect the plants: Predators. By eating a herbavor, he/she gives herself energy, while all the food that the prey -would- of eaten can be eaten by another animal, allowing it to live for the time being.

As for humanity, they are not as bad in my point of view.
They simply live, as do animals. They learned how to harness the power of sea, land, and air, the importance of logic and lies, the energy of man and beast alike.
The processes of humanity are similar to most any living thing. They eat and sleep, they learn as they grow, than they use what they know to build a enviorment sutible for raising their young, they than pass on their knowlage to their offspring, giving them a better chance to survive.

Money, do you even know what that is? Does anyone? Well, we work to gain it, and than use it to gain the work of others. By working at another job, the effort would give a human money to trade for the products of the wrok of another, such as a farmer. Humanity needs money, for they are raised to learn how to obtain it. This is importain to that person life, because it can be used to gain food, cloths, much and most of everything needed to live in a modern human community. It feeds themselves, and their young. It keeps the human ecosystem running, the work of one for the work of another. Such as in a ecosystem, the life of one for the life of another. They are one in two too one.

Great and joyfull world? To be fighting amoung oneanother for food, to flee from fellow furs as they kill and eat eachother just to stay alive?
It scares me Fillipe, it really does. To live in such danger as these animals do, each day untill the day they die.

Fishes and insects have been a food source for other countries before humans even began to farm...
What do you mean, 5 times more plants?! What would eveyone eat? Plants. Because nothing is there to limit the populations, they will grow and grow untill plants could not keep up with the furries. No more food source, all the insects and fish will die because they have nothing to eat. In the end, the furry population will resort to eating eachother, out of pure starvation, and then die.

..But than, plants will grow again. Those who were lucky enough to last through the population plummit can live and make more furries. In predators were re-introduced into the community, than there migh be a chance for recovery, else wise the furry population will go through that same dramatic fall and slow rise in population over and over again, forever.

It is a sad truth, I do wish it was not so.
If you think otherwise, than please tell. I am willing to consider anything if you just say so.



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