I find some people have some interesting dreams. Some are nightmares. Tell us a few of yours. What lurks in the dark recesses of the mind? What do you fear? What makes it feel like the walls are closing in on you? Is there a dark shadow hovering over you striping you of all hope of escape? Looming red eyes watching you from a distance. Or any other tales of terror. Inquiring minds wont to know.
Medic
I do not fear the dark, I fear what it hides.
I have had some problems reambering my dreams recently, weird part is I reamber dreams I have had since I was young, very young. Strange, they are as clear to me as they have been ever since I first dreamed of them.
For a fact, I know that others have heard me talk in my sleep, extramly random things.
Wow... All my dreams are coming back to me now, and now I can realize how random they are!
. . . It seams like alot of my dreams have to do with me rebeling something, a reveloution of sort.
Let me tell you one!
It was night, moonlight thow. Me and around 4-6 others were running at this building, a lone brick structure, why were we doing it? I dont know...
Wait- wait a second, yes that is why! We needed to get them back, yes, to retrive what was to be retrived- what was it that we needed to get?
Anyway, we ran into the building- into a room with pots and pans hanging from the cealing by string. Low enough so we had to push through them to contuinue. It was dim in the room, so source of light yet a dim blue light shined into the room, no windows.
Right than I relized what they were, an alarm! We all bursted into a sprint, heading forward to get what we needed to get.
They appeared, I knew them from my life, but they were not here to help- They were Tie-die. Yes, all of their shirts were tiedie! Mine was not.
My friend, he was taken down and held still by the Tiedies, than they took something out, it was a camera! The one that prints after you use it.
His picture was taken, and with it his movement stopped. The whole time watching while being persuded by other Tiedies, as were the rest of my group.
He became out of view as we ran on into the depths of the house, we could not risk stopping for we knew what we were going to get was far more importain.
Frantic running, these people who chase know me, I know them.
In my path appear two more tiedies, to girls that I knew from my life- one of them was named Jessica, I halted asked her, "Why do you do this? Please tell me why!" She responded, "Tiedie is cool"- With that she reached out to grab me... I could not stop there, I could not give up on my mission. Where were the others? Probley down as well, that makes me the only one left.
I pushed past them, my thoughts teeming with energy as I raced on.
My moment of breif freedom was shattered as I felt a hand grab the shirt on my back, before I could turn around I was shoved to the ground. I rolled over to see who grabbed me. It was my friend, he was allright after all! Than something caught my attention, his shirt- it was tiedie.
How could he do this to me?! Why did he turn Tiedie.
Behind him approched the two girls, Jessica was olding a camera, the other one was holding a picture of my friend!
It was at this moment I figured it out, why we were here.
Pictures, photo pictures of people. Whoever held the picture of someone could controll that person! That is why we came here, to take back the pictures and thus save the people!
As I was held to the ground, I began to think. ("What's so bad about being tiedie? Mabye it wont be as horrible as I think it will be, at least I will be with my friends...")
The camera was close now, how could I let this happen to me? Have I failed all these people, is there time left? There is a flash of light, it blinds me- yet I can see what I must do. I rip myself from their grip, and grab the photo of myself. Rolling to the side so I can stand and run on further into my fear and into my dream.
Eventually I come to a door, I open and walk inside to a room outside. Haha! At last I am out! Welcoming the woodchips that I fell to lie upon, gazing at the sky above me.
I grow restless, so I stand to figure out where I am and what to do next. As I stood up, I saw jessica, standing a few feet or so away from me. I dont run yet, but simply look at her. She looked at me as well, after some time she brings herself to say "I am sorry." Her word, they made such an Impact on me, stunned I was. More time passes, as such the time does when one looks in oneanothers eyes, there was only one thing to say. "I - OK TIME IS UP!
Ya there is more, reamber- dreams for me last around 6-9 hours! That is basicly 3 or 4 movies in one watch! After this certain dream, however, I still get dreams about people in tie-die shirts. -Good Night! (super long post sorry)
Ginny
Dreams are scary. They mean a lot, never wake up and take a sigh of relief and go, "Oh, it was just a dream," because there's a lot more meaning to them then you'll ever think. Of course, some ((such as the classic at-school-in-yer-undies nightmare)) are really just products of your subconscious mirroring your conscious emotions. Most of the time though...
Keep a dream journal, and be careful.
Medic
Mirroring my conscious emotions?! That could be a bad sign for me Ginny, last night I had many dreams in one, I know one of them was about baking 10,000 slices of pizza, each slice was like 1/16 of a pizza. It was all for one person too! (He was not fat)
Another one was about a flying helecopter in a storm, so close to death, but the guy in the front seat was just playing his psp! Not caring about the situation at all...
I know for shure, that the majorty of my dereams that last night was nightmares, horror and action. I am unable to recall most of my dream, but I know it was creepy.
-Ever had any dreams you can reamber clearly?
Fillipe
I havent had nightmares in about 5 or more years now but i still remember them well.
One of them wich was the one i hated the most was like a place me and my family had to go and the place was on top of a very high mountain and the only access was through a sort of pipe that had about 15 feet around and endless of hightness. We had to climb some very rusted ladders on the walls wich made noise as we climed. The place was also very dark and after a wile we couldnt see what was bellow. I was in the middle and after a time on the nightmare the section of the ladder that i was on would start to break from the wall and i would fall along with it.
The other one is like, i sort of get abit lost from my parents and end up in another city, then i start to struggle to get a hitch back home and when i do and get back to my home city, it would be totaly diferent and then i would start the struggling again to find my home.
Sarafina
I have many nightmares -_- One of the most common is where my first mate has me pinned & unable to move somehow while he tells me how worthless & ugly & horrible I am.....a few nights ago I had that dream & aparantly I had it so bad I started thrashing & clawed up Tecoon a bit =( he had to wake me up & calm me down >_<;;
Medic
Wow, these are all very strange dreams!
Can dreams accualy perdict what will happen in your life, or are they based in ones unknown emotions. (Jungiun Shadow)
I myself just woke fome some dreams as well...
Me and a few others were driving around and stopping at houses that we were "assigned" too, then we lunched morter shells and bombs into the houses annd blew them up! But at one house was this wandom old man, no-one said a word, but everyone knew it was on- Basketball madness I tell you. it was so extream cause he was so good, it was like he could fly! The game dident finish cause I woke.
What makes a dream a nightmare?
G-Fox
Two good questions Medic. 1: Now I can't say for sure but I believe dreams are a way for your mind to help process memories. It is not perfect like us so it is at times hard to tell just what they are or are from. 2: I would say a nightmare is a form of dream that 1: Can leave you disoriented or 2: Is the type of dream that has content that frightens you. In other words a scary dream. I don't think dreams can tell the future but bast on past knowledge that can create a situation that you may not have had that might give you hindsight on how something might happen if it were to happen. You could call it subconscious creativity. Your mind thinking creatively to make sense of things as best it can without much guidance. Neat thing is for some like me if one is aware that your in a dream you can at times participate in it or control it to an extent.
Now what Sarafina disribed is what I call a nightmare in deed. That sounded really bad.
I got one not long ago. It started at a sort of vet section of a pet shop. A guy sed to another guy "I have a bird in a cage that told me it wants to mate with a mouse." The other guy told him that he may not be cut out for this job" And he put a cat in a cage near the bird than the bird started to make a big fuss and tried to bite throw the cage to get at the cat. I think to kill the cat. Then the dream changed to a little girl trying to take care of a large gray squirrel. Then it switched again to a bunch of old men running something like a post office they had a bunch of out dated stuff there and refused to get up to date things to work with. Then it switched again back to the girl with the squirrel. In a yard near by a white cat was walking in it's yard. The squirrel dashed off to chace the cat all over the yard. this chase lasted for a time than the squirrel bit the cat on the neck as if it was a cat itself then chewed a message into the cat's side then left at the cat's owners back door. The owner of the cat came out it was one of the old men from the post office. He seen the message it said (Use Robot's). The squirrel returned to the girl with it's face all bloody the girl screamed and the old man yelled out "Nooooo!".
I can't make any sense of it accept that I just finished watching Ghost In The Shell Stand Alone Complex.
I think it had something to do with the fact that I did not like what happened to the Tachikomas (Spider like think tank robots) when the Major dissuaded to have them scraped because they where getting to smart. There AI was developing too fast to cuntrol. And she did not like that. To say the least I was rather upset. I think that triggered part of the dream.
O and keep them coming. They do make for interesting stories.
Ginny
I sort of analyze dreams. My teacher forced me to take AP Psychology next year XD
Yeah, Sara, I'd say you're sort of nervous, you don't think you're very pretty, and maybe don't think you deserve Teccoon? Not true, of course; I seen your pics and talked to you, and maybe you don't think this to yourself, but it's there in your subconscious. Am I right or am I totally off-base? XD
Burn
I don't have dreams. I've had like, one dream in the last two years.
But when I do have dreams I don't think there really is any point in them. The last dream I remember having was something about a roller coaster in the woods behind my house. Oh, and there was an abandoned mine there too. I went on the roller coaster, checked out the mine and then woke up.
As for nightmares I've only had one that I can remember, and now I have to re-live it every week day. The school was trying to eat me.
Medic
Alot of dreams here, nightmares many from all.
Burn, for me when I wake I knew I had a dream, but I forget most/all of it. Very few of it is not forgoten, useally the noticable parts stay a bit longer.
A few days ago, I had a nightmare of a dream. It was something I did not expect to dream about but I did. Before I went to sleep I was reading/on Zfurry...
It was a great sunny day, in my dream. A fury of activity was taking place in a sort of tent-town, settled inbetween open green hills. -Quite nice it was.
In this town was merriment, laughter, and play. The people talked and traded as they went about their lives in their own differnt way. Who lived here? Well oddly enough, furries did. -In fact, the whole thing was a convention!
On top of one of the hills that surrounded this town stood something of human form, I could not tell because of the metalic suit that surrounded this unknown being. A mask of glass, allmost like a square, covered it's face. It looked like it was built into the suit itself!
There it stood, not moving or making a sound. A few people begain to take notice of this person on the hill, more and more began to gather at a safe distince away from him or her, impossible to tell.
As the people gathered so did other things. From behind him approched the animals of the woods. They were as quite and motionless as the man they stood next to, facing the crowd with emotionless faces.
It was the people who made the first move, a few steps at the most, towards these animals. He surprised me! A random person from the furry group went a few paces ahead of the rest, and opened his arms to the unknown group of animals, as if expecting a hug! A fox went up to him, with nothing except for fur and claws. Stopping some feet before this "furry" to adjust himself, than he pounced with claws and teeth ready at this furry, knocking him down for a easy position to slash at his neck. A few seconds of gurgaling/blood, then once again no sound. The fox looked back at the crowd, grinning,
With that the rest of the animals behind the fox dashed foward, it was clear what they came here to do. The animals wasted no time as they swept through the town, scattering to better slaughter the furries.
The unknown one at the back marched slowly foward, spraying flames upon the tents and bodies of the furries. The weight of his tank forcing him to advance at a crawling, but deadly pace.
Back with the furries, they have came to understand the position they were in. As the front group ran from the killer beasts, the ones who did not gather had the advantage of hearing the screams of if the doomed and dieing. They took what they could find, anything sharp and in reach to fight back with.
Pillers of smoke rised from the flaming tents, and the art they contained, ash.
The smell of burnt fur became part of the battle, unescapable. Those unlucky enough to catch fire quickly spread it like a virus, basicly everything was flammable.
Bodies of animals and humans alike littered the streets, their blood mixed as it flowed into puddles on the muddy paths. to the dirt they were finnaly at last equal.
I woke from this dream, after hours of bearing witness to these seens of horror. This dream is a mystery to me, I have no idea why I had it, or why I did not forget it. One thing I know is that the battle did not end, there was no known winners or loosers, that is for sure. I am most puzzled by the unknown person, who's mask gleamed with the heat and light of fire.
..Ok, mabye too long. I like burn's, it is to the point! I am going to try!
-Furry convention raided by animals, much killing, no winners.
I could of done that- but that is to resonable for me, to much logic!
Has anyone has dreams with animals / furries in them? Just wondering.
Sarafina
WOW.....Medic I've had dreams alot like that.
One I've had more than once was where all around me were torn up bodies of people and animals & I'm walking rather calmly through them. I see up ahead a friend of mine & I go to him. He's staring up at the hills & turns to me & says
"We need to get moving to the North. The others are waiting for us"
What was creepy was when I went to my friend & told him about it he went pale & claimed he had the same dream
*shudder*
Anyway- ALL my good dreams have (live) anmals in them. Often who speak to me
And I do often have dreams where I'm my furry self & all my friends are in their furry forms too....and the occasional Tecoon/Sarafia yiff dream *cough & blush*
Ginny
XD I've only ever had one dream that was me WITH someone else in anthro form...normally, my dreams as a fur are either by myself or I'm human and surrounded by people. However, a few days back, I had a dream that concerned me, a friend from school ((kid in my Bio class, I think he's a fur but not sure; he loves tigers and we've got that much in common)), FOMF, and...this specific wuffy...that I sorta kinda like...>>;
But no one here knows him :3 So yeah. Anyway.
Sara: this s.o.b wanted you to do WHAT?! >< He's mean. I don't believe in doing all that crap with surgery. You look fine the way you are; if you got implants it'd look weird and unnatural. ((Note: I'm saying this from a matter of fact point of view; I'm the girl who went to modeling school for a year; I know how to catch this stuff XD ))
G-Fox
I would have to agree with Ginny on this. Fully! From what I have seen you look fine. And I always disliked the idea of someone getting breast implants. I find it a very unnecessary risk for really nothing. It cares the risk of killing you in a vary bad way if things don't go well. I would my self find it hard to believe a guy that asks you to do something like that for his sake loves you at all. I can't help but feel for you. Makes me mad to hear about some one that would do such a thing. But now you have Tecoon. Hopefully you can in time get over your past and have no more of those nightmares of that.
Dreams of taking animals. Cool! I like those. I don't get many though. Wish I did.
Sarafina
Eh sadly it's not that simple. It's already effected me VERY deeply. Hell if I even see a TV ad (like those 'Girls gone wild' ads for example) having to do with "attractive" women I feel A LOT of pain.....depending on the content I can have a panic attack. Hence why I constantly have nightmares. And as much as I love Tecoon, I know even he doesn't understand how horrible it feels.
Anyway...a bit back on topic.
I alo have recurring dreams where I'm a wolf...But I'm pretty sure those have to do with my reincarnaton beleifs (I believe I used to be a wolf)
Anyone else have dreams/nightmares where they're an animal? Those are awesome & usualy have pretty heavy spiritual & symbolic menaings
Ginny
Sara. You ARE an attractive woman. >< As a girl, I can sort of relate...though I've never had a horrific experience like that tailhole gave you... Seriously, though, you are definately really pretty, and whoever decides you need to add something just needs to get their eyes checked, all right? All right.
Yeah.
Erm, on topic.
I do too, Sara ((by the way, this is random, but I have this urge to call you Sara-Bear just cause it's rhymy and cute XD )). I've had dreams of being a tigress-which is why I changed my fursona in the first place, but that's a WHOLE different story that I don't really feel comfortable sharing with anyone. Anyway. My point was: I really agree about the spiritual thing, dreams are often spiritual things and one of being my totem animal always hits me pretty hard. In a good way, normally. Though not always...
Sarafina
(Off Topic) OMG!! ROTFLMAO!!!! One of my old friends used to call me Sara-Bear from my 'acting like an animal' thing.....My responce to him was always "I'm not a bear, I'm a thylacine"
(back on topic)-I should make a code for this
dreams & nightmares in themselves have big footing in spiritualitys of all kinds...though whenever I pick up a book on the subject I tend to disagree with their 'meanings' for symbols in dreams. I think it's all up to the dreamer in question
Ginny
Mmmhmm. Everyone takes things differently. A giant black wolf appearing in a dream of yours might signal your totem animal, while the same thing appearing in, say, my mom's dream might give her a heart attack. I guess all that stuff goes in your subconscious as well as your conscious.
Yeah, from now on I'm calling you SaraBear. Just for the heck of it. Even though you're a thylacine. XP
Sarafina
ok...I'm hoping this isn't too off topic but I think it's fine because it is about nightmares
*ahem*
ok so Tecoon & I were watching Jimmy Kimmel live because Wes Craven was a guest & we like him (All hail THHE & NOES!) Anyway Jimmy brought up a woman who was so terrified of NOES when she was a child she had nightmares everynight & she had to go to therapy. They told her to draw a button on her hand & to push it whenever she was afarid...the catch? They called it "the happy button"
Tecoon & I laughed heartily & I made the obvious remark of how the happy button isn't on your hand
Anyway...yeah
Ginny
LOL
...
wait
it isn't?
Astralfox
The dark shadow you say? I can travel from place to place... watching... I have not left my hemisphere yet, I cant stretch my conciuosness far enough, but one day... that black show might be me...
Astralfox
oh, and tend to have a lot of dreams where I mutilate people for inforation, and when they break and try to tell me, i 'fade' thats the only way I can describe it, it's not me doing it, and it's different to when I dissapear from thing's view.
oh, and sara, I once had a dream where I was going to kill myself by jumping of a cliff, but when I "hit the ground" everything went white and I found myself on a hilltop overlooking a small town, but everything in it was dead.
Sarafina
wow..all these dreams we seems to share of death surrounding is is making me wonder...
Astralfox
I went hunting through my room yesterday and found a pad with some stuff i wrote after the dream, on the hill a young guy with brown hair gave me some paper and it had this stuff written on it:
where have I seen you before?
they are dead
they are dead
they are dead
they are dead
they are dead
they are dead
they are dead
they are dead
they are dead
they are dead
they are dead
they are dead
they are dead
one survives?
and
why can't they live
to die is a pleasure
why to live forever
punishment of undeath
to see a million moons is punishment enough
of life they speek
of death they relate
till death thay wait
weird, but I can remember it quite vividly.
oh, and i could try to find the place in your dream, sara, where did you think it was, (geographically speaking) I can controll what happens in some of my dreams, so i'll try to find it, the dream world, as far as I can tell, is constant, and so I should be able to find it...
Sarafina
No offence Medic but I'm pretty sure that's not what it means -_-
Astralfox
sara, Dreams have a lot to do with fears, expectations, thoughts, and recurring images, though mostly they are our subconcious trying to tell us somthing. no idea what mine is trying to tell me, and I'm in direct contact with him, he calls himself 'shaper' but the awnsers are cryptic at best.
==
oh, I could'nt find the hilltop, but i found what killed everything in the town... according to a torture victim, i did it, weird. must find more _actuall_ people to question
Medic
Ok fine, I might not be able to read dreams at all, but I was just trying to look at the dream in a differnt way!
Would you be happier if I said it means someone is going to attack and multalate you, then your baby will die? That makes no sense at all! (to me)
Think of it what you will.
Sarafina
Medic wrote:
Ok fine, I might not be able to read dreams at all, but I was just trying to look at the dream in a differnt way!
Would you be happier if I said it means someone is going to attack and multalate you, then your baby will die? That makes no sense at all! (to me)
Think of it what you will.
Medic that responce was rather rude. I posted this because I trut you guys but if people respond like that (to anyone) I will suggest not to share personal feelings and I will not let anyone be hurt by anything someone else says. Am I clear?
Ginny
Wow...Sara-chan...
You hurt more than anyone I've spoken to in a long time. And I talk to a lot of people.
Basically, you seem to be thinking you're not good enough for Matt. Ehem, Tecoon. Which is bull. Because you are, really. Also, I think this 'ex' guy probably represents all the relationships with guys that you've ever had. Friends and family included.
You're feeling unsure, not in that you WANT to be with Matt ((ah, forget the Tecoon bit for now)), but in that you DESERVE to be with him. That's my humble opinion anyway. And. also my opinion, you DO deserve him, and he deserves you. You guys were born for each other.
Help any? ^^;
Medic
Sarafina wrote:
Medic that responce was rather rude. I posted this because I trut you guys but if people respond like that (to anyone) I will suggest not to share personal feelings and I will not let anyone be hurt by anything someone else says. Am I clear?
Bu... I.. Yes, you are. =(
If I may defend myself for a moment- No, forget it..
It just seemed a bit strange to...
Darn Sarafina, that hurt.
Medic
Hey now Sarafina, dont feel like you have done anything wrong.
Shure your nightmare might of been intensing and confusing to all of us, but thats why we are here right? Besides, your responce had much truth to it! ..and my post might of been a bit rude, even if I dident want it to be..
G-Fox
Medic in that dream you mentioned reminded me of a past post I made on FurCentral when it was up. Someone made the comment that foxes where kind and gentle or something like that. I told him not true. Foxes are an animal predator and will fight and kill. The fact that in your dream that a fox was the first to attack somehow pleases me. Don't ask why. It just dose.
Something about the dream reminds me of a past thought of mine on furrys them selves and peoples fascination with animals in general more to the point of wanting to be like them. Look at sports. Many teams use animal names to represent the team. Despite our intelligence we humans are not as strong. And greatly lack good natural defenses like other animals have. We as humans seam to admire what animals can do on there own. If it came down to a fight with intelligent animals intelligent as us we would loose. They would tare us apart. Are only advantage would be our tech. With it we would win. Without it we would not last a week. Then again who is to say that intelligent animals would team up against us. They would first learn to work together. That is any groups worst enemy. Is each other.
I can't tell much from your dream but very cool and sad as well. Furrys being attacked by animals Interesting dream. There could be a meaning behind that. Maybe a thought of animals resentment of humans trying to be like them to some how better them selves and with that over all better then animals both in mind and boddy.
I could see how that could start a war.
Ginny
No, Sara. That was a good thing to put up here. Definately had a lot of meaning. XD I'mma be SO freakin' good next year in AP Psych, they're not gunna know what to do with me
G-Fox
Wow I did not see that second page. Sarafina I am sorry to hear your dreams of past events have grown so intense. There is no need to apologies for your post. I can't help but feal these posts of nightmares have gotten you to think more on things and in return billd on your fears and give you worse nightmares. Have you had any resent contact with your ex? Wish I could help. It seams you are dwelling even more on what others think on how you look and that others wish you would look better to them then what you do now still more specifically your ex. I have had that fear my self. And it to me seams you fear the thought that your ex at some point may try something to destroy your current relationship or anything good that may come from your current relationship. The thought of him being jealous maybe? Could you do something that might set your mind at ease that he will not try anything. Are you able to talk with him or is that out of the question? To tell the truth I think many but not all furrys have some have a few hang-ups on there looks. I know I do. Hell my dad made a very rude comment about my looks back when I was 16 during a family gathering once. I just left. It still affects me a little now but not much it is more of a memory than any thing else. I really wish I could help you out with this as it would seam others here wish to do. So pleas don't feel bad about posting about your deep problems. I for one do not wont to shun your search for help with this.
Sarafina
Thanks guys *hugs* You are truely the best
Astralfox
still havent found the place...
but good on you all for sorting that out, *grins* i thought i'd rather keep my muzzle out of that.
i keep having dreams where people are attacking me, phsically and verbally, it dosent scare me, it just gets to me to the point where i attack them, hunting them down when they run... im a little worried how I would react if a came across a troll in RL, I already deal with one from my own country on zdaemon... damn this anti furry world!
Burn
Wow. I'm really starting to think somone needs to beat this ex of yours, Sara.
Sarafina
Well, we shouldn't focus too much on him. Though he is a big part of my nightmares. I hope I haven't taken this thread too off topic O_O
G-Fox
No, you have not taken this out of topic. This is about nightmares and what you have stated is all about one of yours. To try to fix things or just to come to an understanding of it so one can try to make things better in some way I feel is vary much part of this thread. So we have the opportunity to help you in some way with your nightmare real or dream. Yours seam to be both.
It would seam he would like to make you feel you can do no better then him. Your relation with Tecoon says otherwise. I do believe you see this. He however still poses a very real problem. He has not come to grips himself that you truly have moved on and don't just not need him but you don't wont him. I don't think things with him will get better until he is made to see that he can't manipulate you into thinking you can't do without him and get him self a life. He needs to realize it is fully over with the two of you and there is no going back. I still think that part of your nightmare is that you feel he might do something rash. Until you are sure he is no longer mad at you or obsessing over controlling you. I am not sure your nightmares on that will end. I can only hope you can find a way to reason with him. Even if you have to have some help with doing that. Like have someone with you and confront him and make him understand it is over. Not sure what else can help.
Hate to say it but burn may be right. Some need that kind of persuasion. But do what you think is best.
Sarafina
hope this isn't out of context but I wish I was a bit more "reassured" by Tecoon =(
I kinda have this permanant problem that I don't trust anyone. I try my best to trust him but sometimes it's too hard
Medic
Trusting people? Well, alot of people have difficulty trusting others, me being one of them. I do have some trust in you all, but only to an certain amount. It real questing is do I trust myself to have trust is you?
There is only a few ways to see if there is any trust between two people. One of which is to accualy do something that would require trust to do!
Please, whatever you do; do not read what I am about to type. Just skip down to the next post below, or type a new one.
DO NOT read this: All furries should burn.
G-Fox
Humm? Well, Sarafina That trust problem with Tecoon sounds normal to me considering your past.
It dose not seam you let it interfere with your relation with Tecoon. And I would hope that Tecoon dose not see this trust problem as a form of insult to him. But I don't think he will or a dose. I can't say I am very good at this. Wish I could give some helpful advice on this. All I can say is give it time. Let him know what is on your mind a little more at a time. Trust is one of those things that take time to build but take only an assumption to tare it down. Ginny I am not good at this perhaps some thoughts from you. I will not pry but it is hard to know what to say. It would depend on what or on how you don't trust him but I think I know but will not assume. I have a grate trust problem my self. It is difficult to wont to fully open your self to someone when you have that nagging feeling of just being hurt for it and am left with wondering if it is worth it.
I can't say. I don't know. And probably never will. But you have that chance. Tecoon may be the one for that.
Ginny
Sara-chan, if you're scared to trust someone, all you gotta do is remember that people love you. Tecoon isn't gonna betray you. And I can't speak for anyone else, but I do know I'm not gonna betray you. ((If that's any help at all...actually, that's prolly a little creepy, me being some random teenage chick that lives on the other end of the country X3 ))
Also, yeah, G-Fox, you're extremely right there; trust is extremely fragile. Although it takes forever and a lot of love and care to build it up, it's far too easy to break it, and once it's broken it's near impossible to fix. However, it's extremely understandable as to why you have a trust issue. Don't worry about it; just follow your heart and not your mind ((sometimes, if you're scared to trust someone, you tend to think too much and end up in a big mess of assumptions)).
You're loved, Sara, and trusted, so don't worry. You'll always have friends.
Sarafina
lol no worries. It's not creepy. In fact the best friend I ever had I met online. He lived in Maine. Sadly I've lost contact with him since he moved out of the country. His name is Taylor. I really really miss him. we talked out some of the most fucked up shit we ever went through together. I hope he's well. I really miss him & I'd kill to have him at our wedding!!!!!! (which we still don't have a date for yet)
Oy did I go off topic....Sorry guys
Ginny
wish I could go to your guyses wedding ;; But yeah, okkies, back on topic. I had a nightmare about my English teacher the other day. XD
Sarafina
gah can't believe I haven't checked this thread
ANWYAY Ginny, do tell!
(also we're hoping to get a few long distance friends to come so we'll see! )
Jessie Haven
This is a rare accurence... but I have had something that may be considered a dream or a nightmare... its hard to say really.
As I slowly drifted off into sleep but yet I was still thinking about something or other... not sure it is a bit of a memory now. While getting to sleep I happened to start entering my world the usual way I do... I wake up in a hole <.< But as I climb out I get eaten by a dragon... thats carma for ya... anyway... After said devowering, I die and go up to heaven. God forbid. and have a talk with the big head herself... Yes god is a woman in this dream, dont know why, blame my sub conscus... Anyway after the talk I get to be incontrol of a new plain of existance, call it a trial call it what you will but this is how it goes... I dont like the idea but find a way to make it to my 'liking'. This new plain of existance is for all the people that have lived an 'appropreate' FURRY life style... sounds awsome I know... but thats normaly how really really bad things start.
I get a few to start out, giving them jobs and all that making sure that the place was going rather well... things started out wonderfull and I made many friends up there, or down... hard to tell... The place started to get really overly populated and yet still it was work keeping up with all the requests of furs that where still alive... the whole 'god thing' and trying to keep up with that. Then there was yet angry furs that jsut barly made it in that wanted to know why 'I didnt answer them or their prayrs'... this alone was a pain in dealing with so I had to hired some more forces from the dead to continue my work while I take care of things...
On and on this went, dealing with problems of other people and as many of you know that is not best quality by any means... after a while I started to get annoyed and erregent with my athorety and was placed under the same forceful paw that I had thrown upon my land. Being treated like a slave, beaten and mistreated day in and day out as if it would never end... Then god reached her hand down and pulled me out of the cage and bondage to speak with me... I kid you not with a smile on her face she told me "Was it really worth it?"
thats it, im very sure that I could have gone on and it would be more interesting but still I got the message... I think... I should never have what I want, it mite just be my undoing. Its a pretty deep message but still a valid expirience that I will try to remember.
*writes this down to make sure*
Medic
Sounds like a weird dream, Jessie.
Odd, you go from being some sort of god to being treated like a slave..
I dont think granting them their wishes was a good idea- eventually they will grow to depend on you for everything they want! A better plan would be to show/teach the living how to live on their own. It's a strange concept, that of your dream.
I do have just one question for you. If all the furs that would of gone to your plain of existance would of instead gone to hell, would it have been worth it to go through what you did in order to save them?
You got eaten by a dragon!? That reminds me of a story! You see, one time I met this phoenix...
...And thats why I hate fire. >.> I should really remember a nightmare to post..
Jessie, how could of they been so mean to you if you contoled their existance!?
Astralfox
*chooses this moment to wake up*
ve-ry interesting..... I can't help but wonder what would happen if I were able to visit you guys through dreams... It would be so fun 'cause people can affect dream universes.
anyway- the dream has the whole lord and slave feel to it, you know, seeing how both halves live, like that... I can't say much more about it, but I hope it helped.
*goes back to sleep*
G-Fox
Wow! Cool dream Jessie. Yes, very deep.
I think you gained the concept of power that is as a kind person. You wish to do good with it but find by
doing so you burden your self too much. The demands of others can weigh heavy on a helpful soul.
So what was your answer if you remember it? Was it worth it?
I my self I am not sure what my answer would be. Probably no. It is good to be helpful but not to the point it starts to do harm to you. There is exceptions to that it all depends on how much of your self you are willing to give at any given moment. Some tend to die for others. That is giving all one can give. That in it self is a tough choice and at times not a choice but a reaction. Humm? Much to think about with this one.