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killerlove

meet my foxxy=^.^=

our newest member to these forums, is my mate Felix =^.^= yay *huggles his foxxy*
FelixtheDWAF

*giggles and huggles back* Dante your too cute, and hello everyone im happy to be here. I hope im not being a bother to anyone
Medic

Hi Felix... Welcome to zfurry, where you must stay on topic.
Wait, your not Felix! I take it Killer is introucing Felix? Great. So ya, have fun- as long as it goes with the topic! *Looks at killer* >.> Topic. The tip top of the topic.
Anyway I am Medic, I think killer love will tell you about the others, for I am in a sad depressed mood, that I am normaly not...
Cant say anything more because than it wouldent be on topic WOULD IT KILLER?!?
-.- huzza for another fur. *throws 1 streamer* Ok I will be going now. (welcome)
Ginny

Surprised Felix-chan! *hugglesnugs* Dante-chan told me you joined but I didn't believe him. That's awesome! Now I can finally get to know you for real ^^ *snugs* Have fun around here, kay? You'll love it. Except for Medic. :p
Medic

HEY! That was mean. o.o Sorry if I was a little, unenthusatic. I was still recovering from my Topic Trama. Oh and now theres a newer newest user! Felix, I hope you do have fun at Zfurry and I apoligize in advance if do something bad. x.x Please dont lable me as a jerk/annoyance/troll! Lables come with really sticky glue that is very hard to take off...
Welcome to Jurissic Park, or Zfurry! ^-^ Plagurism! (W.E.L.C.O.M.E!) =D
Ginny

Very Happy no worries, Medic, just make sure you act mature and you'll be okay.
Medic

M.. wa... Mature!? @.@ Worries+ *panics* I.. I Dont think I can do that Ginny! My mood sways with time and topic, I GOT THE SIGN OF THE WATER MONKEY!!! I hope you can understand that; I get disencourged super easily! >.> It's a curse of cation.
Than agean I *do* want to help others, even if I cant have fun myself.
*Salutes Ginny* Righto than Ginny! I'll take your advice!
FelixtheDWAF

Ginny! *hugglesnugs back* Yay I would love to get to know you better and *Ignores Medic* I sure I will have fun plus I already have a love factor in here so YAY!
Medic

Ouch Felix, you shure know how to make a fur feel bad. =(
Allright I am ok agean! Just a tiny wound, Your right Ginny. Being mature is the best thing to be, Ignoring is super mature... >.> I might deserve it for being off topic..
*Attempts to rip lable off* Yup I am too late. Quick drying glue! Now I look foward to the pile up effect. Everyone|>|Me|---> [Death] Just a few more pushes and you win! Congrats! ^-^ Welcome to Zfurry Felix, good to meet ya.
FelixtheDWAF

Sorry Medic but you were picking on my love and that was making me a little... ya know? And sorry But the pic thing for my avy is my drawing so happy am I...... Um ya k
Ginny

XD Medic...you need a course in punctuation.
And Felix, yeah, this board is nice, because everyone LOVES EACH OTHER. No hate here. Hint hint. :p But yeah, Stu doesn't come on very much, mebbe you'll change that ((hopefully :p))
Medic

No no! Your love needs no picking to be dont DO NOT ACUSE ME of false accuations, which you never really did but I feel like talking the way I do! K-goftine.
Let me ask you something ginny, ever seen a playground at recess? Now go watch a football game. Looks like the Inmature ones are haveing more fun to me!
No hate, here?! Zalright! . . . (The eye in Felix's avatar looks like one from an evil movie). . . What, IT'S TRUE! Not like that is a bad thing. Just saying! ^.^
FelixtheDWAF

I said sorry........ Sorry but yesh the eye is suppost to look like that I had some dark intent in mind
Medic

I dont think YOU understand! I am the one saying sorry! *Gets a tape recorder, records the word Sorry, sets it to Loop and places it somewhere hidden in Felix's room*
Now you can know how sorry I am! ^-^
If you were aiming for the dark intent look with the eye, you have found it! It says "I am going to eat you" all over that avatar, very dark indeed. Reminds me of a marble...
Burn

Calm down, calm down. Here baby, have a piece of cheese.

Lawl. Burnt Face Man.

The Dwaf, gets a peice of fish. Enjoy.
Medic

*shaks paw at Burn* YOU CALM YOURSELF DOWN WOLF!... whats this? Food, for me?!
Why, thank you. Thank you very much! *Rolls a golf ball covered with scribbles to Burn*
Heres a present from me to you! ^-^ In apperation of your offering, but I dont like cheese. Hamster! =D
FelixtheDWAF

Sorry I was being stupid and forgot to make my discription woops anyway here it is, Once again sorry.
Ok First off just call me felix its easyer
Im a Demonic winged Arctic Fox so, my fur is white, I have Crimson\or Red-Violet cat like eyes, Dark Leathery Obsidian Wings, My claws are black and are retractable (yes like a cats), 4' 7'' yes im short but "it makes me cuter?", I usaly wear a Spiked Necklas, Grey, black, red or teal tee-shirt and a black vest over that, left arm has a spiked bracelet, two spiked belts I don't know why two but whatever, Baggy black cargo like shorts that go to the shins they have chains on them so i guess you can call them gothic if you really wanted to, and last but not least black steel toed boots.

Yes I know Black black black but i like it and it has good contrast with white fur so...... ya, I have tons more details but thats enough for general info um thankys and.... i so need to finish drawing my character... >^.^<
Medic

(Gothic albino Fox-Bat. A new species! Note the evil eyes on the white fur head...
You got quite the outfit Felix, but sometimes less is better!) o.o Balto was my favorite wolf..
FelixtheDWAF

In "Demonic Winged" I mean like the wings come from out of my back um... Like a dragon.... ya like a dragon
Medic

A Furry Gothic Dragon Wolf? Can.. You shoot fire? Does this make you "Part Demonic" or Evil in some way. Are you evil? Or have demon powers of any type! (Sorry, but this dragon furry wolf thing rises questions for me)
FelixtheDWAF

No its fine I like having conversations, Now remember My character isn't a wolf -> Arctic Fox <- and yes I gave him a few demonic gifts or your so called powers. And no he doesn't shoot, fire.........
SXTC

watch out for medic.. oh he'll fix you allright Rolling Eyes (kidding)
Medic

Kidding is for kids! But kids want to be adults, but adults have inner childs! Where do old people fit in this situation! #.#
Artic fox! Of coruse, now I reamber! Gifts, you say? What, sort of "Gifts" are you talking about Felix! When you fly do you leave a trail of darkness!? So much options, please tell! Does SXTC have powers? Or mabye a certain super skill!?
(What does it mean by "fix you?")
FelixtheDWAF

Ok no I dont leave a trail of darkness that wouldn't help my character at all. I mean like make his claws and wings bigger, transfer through shadows, ..... and a few more things like that and no im not going to tell you otherwise their wouldn't be any suprises left now would there? He has and elemental power but im not telling you what one.... and SXTC looks like he could read minds if he wanted to..... which is cool and all... (is he really going to?)
Medic

@.@ Transfer through shadows?! That's a bit extream no? You mean 100% black shadows or just simi-shadows? You can teleport anywhere at night!? Is it your shadow power limited? Elemental powers I can handle, theres allways a way around'em. >)
Me, Myself-I? Let's just say I have the power of Impromptu. Sorta like a Magic Packback that holds anything. But not exactly like that! Example: *A Flaming Mario falling from the sky crashes into a tree causeing it to fall down, creating a "flaming barrier".* Porblem with my "Skill" is that it dosent allways work the way I want...
"From this day to the ending of the world we in it shall be remembered. We lucky few, we band of brothers. For he who today sheds his blood with me shall be my brother."
I wanted to end with that.
SXTC

well.. wouldn't want to scare you but I can read minds.. accuratly when looking in your eyes or when hearing your voice, close to accurate by observing how you compose your sentences, giving me insight on how you felt when you typed those words, if you meant them or were faking a certain emotion Cool
killerlove

first: foxxy can not teleport every where at night, there iss something called streetlights, second: there is NO such thing as complete (100% ) shadow, that my good man, would infact be the work of a necromancer, thirdly: so as not to be offtopic, im working on astral projection at the moment, but im not telling you my teacher because he got mad last time i told someone :/
Medic

HA HA HA! YOOOOOOOU KILLER LOVE!!! I have been to a cave once, and underground cave. (Trust me, it's 100% darkness when you turn off the lights) Really dark, epic dark!
^-^ You called me adult! YES! The last part your said, bit confused me.
*calms down*
SXTC! Your power, it scares me.. o.o
Why? I might not know, but it is something that all people, animal or not, fear.
Name that came up while playing PARASITE(WC3): Tinder Alas
I suppose if everyfur is telling of their skills than I should tell some of mine. My skill is, errr... It's too hard to explain! Impromptu is the best way to discribe it.. Wish I could give an example... >.> Oh well.
FelixtheDWAF

Sorry Medic but still no thats not 100% darkness just like there isn't 100% light its because any little thing could make it impure and thats like anything and yes even if you did go down into a cave and sealed the entrance off it still wouldn't be complete darkness...... I wish their was but there isn't and finaly yes for some elemental powers there are ways around but NOT all of them some just cant be avoided
Medic

You go blind in 4 hours inside the cave without light..
Some of them cant be avoided? What ones do you speek of!?
I havent heard of such powers before, could you give an example? o.0?
Ginny

Eh....heh...^^; Still very sorry about that, Stu-chan, I remember he did get really mad...

I guess my skill would be...listening? I dunno. Anyone wanna clear that up for me? XD
killerlove

Gin-chan is with me on the astral project :p, and believe me medic *gets serious* you have NOT seen 100% darkness, but niether have i, iv heard about it, pretty scary, you dont want to be in that and felix is right, any one thing could be an impurity in it
Ginny

Very Happy You're back from...swimming or whatever! *hugs* missed joo.
Yeah, we don't ever need to get there, never need to even try. Scary stuff there. Not cool-scary. Bad-scary.
FelixtheDWAF

Ok think of the Element of Ice, Fire, Electricity, metal, there are other too
Ginny

ALOOSH!

...and that was my random 10:00 pm on a Monday night blurb.
Thank you and good night. *bows and exits laughing manically*
Medic

Isent it 100% dark in a black hole?
Ice, Fire, electricity, metal, ya they are elements. But theres no reason you cant counter them! Mainly depends on how they are being used! Trust me, theres a way. Wana kill darkness? Get some fireflys, or a flashlight. >.>
What is this astral project you speek of Killer?! (Ginny raises Moral)
FelixtheDWAF

Nope even though black holes absorb light energy and suck in everything it still is impure due to that cause and Give me a obstical and I will tell you how to beat it with a elemental power
Medic

Emotion, beat that with elemental power!
There is a way to see true blackness, unfourtionaly it requires you to remove your eleballs and not many want to do that- Not me at least!
Everyfur sees things in differnt ways, I see things as connections. This causes some problems for myself... There's got to be a better way to solve this Felix!
FelixtheDWAF

How can you beat Emotion if there isn't anything to fight hmmmm? I said obstical some kind of senerio that would be difficult to over come. And dont give my any phyco babble You just kill the person end of story
Medic

Killing is not allways the best answer Felix. Yes, emoton is an obstical- sometimes more so than a spiked wall.
Besides, just killing the person would not make for a good story would it?!
What is an element, to find them all is to find all nonliving things in exestince!
It is harder to stop death than it is to stop life, to the point Felix.
killerlove

there is an element to over come emotions, if you believe in it, the light of divine judgement, if you are such a diety to obtain a power such as that, you could kill the person without bating an eye, and believe me, that wouldnt be a good thing for a sinner Smile
Medic

Divine judgement will overcome Justice, Mercy, Love, Happyness, Compassion, Joy, Hope, even courage? That dosent sound too Divine to me.. Sounds evil!
Why would you wana overcome emotions? You need them to live!
Killing people does not sound divine, not at all. (to me)
Besides, isent divine judgement made up of emotions? The will to do good and bring justice to the world?
Do not forget why you do what you do; for emotions! It's a powerfull tool.
killerlove

*giggles* you make me laugh, divine judgement is not made of emotions, i may be thinking about going back to religion, but i still wont think "god" if he is there, would use EMOTIONS when wondering about HIS plan for everyone, divine judgement, in every religion, its coming, for all of us, sinner or believer, apocolypse or judgement day, it'll come Smile
Medic

As will our death.
Mabye instead of waiting for it to come, why dont we look to what we allready have, and attend to the problems of today and tomorrow.
Dont forget about Raganok! Cant leave that off the list-o doom.
When you wonder, you think. When you think, you use reason. Our emotions affect our reason so much, basicly every thing you think is revolving around emotion!
"Meet my foxxy =^.^=" Was.. Was that the subject?! #.#
FelixtheDWAF

Who Cares what the subject was We cant really get off topic can we???? I mean this was related to me and it has some branches ya so what anyway. and there is a thing called acting without emotion its called instinct or primal nature........
Medic

Emotion is our Primal Nature and Instinct! Off topic is ok, I was just surprised by the origional topic.
FelixtheDWAF

Not really if you look it up its more of a action we do automaticaly with out emotion or control really
Medic

No, it's instinct!
Your running alone one day, and whoa! You see a cliff, and your going stright at it.
Why dont you just run off the cliff? Instinct? Nope. it's Fear. Your scared to run off the cliff because it will threaten the chance of your survival, so you avoide what you fear and thus live to run another day! (this dosent count if you can fly...)
You dont gota think about being scared, it is automatic. Gun pointed at you = your Emotion center decects this as a threat to your life = You scared = You handle situation acording mainly to emotion: Fear. (Probley get out of the way)

Look it up? No thanks, thoes "pros" dont know what their talking about, well they do, but they dont know why. It's much more fun to do things yourself, right?
FelixtheDWAF

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS STUPID WHAT DOES RUNNING OFF A CLIFF HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING ELO!!! THATS CALLED COMMON SENCE!

I LIKE BIG TYPE
Medic

It's called instinct, also known as common sence. It's not stupid, it is an example. You know, proof or something like that.
THIS IS HOW YOU TYPE BIG
Ginny

Instinct is different than common sense:
If you do something by instinct, it's because some gut feeling is telling you you need to do it ((or not do it)) without any conscious thought involved.
Common sense is when you think about something, then decide "Yeah, I oughta do that" or "heck no I ain't doing that". See?
Medic

Emotion is both Instinct and Common sence, because your emotions effect your reasoning too. (If you REALLY hate someone, you might not be as nice to them as you are to your best friend. -Hate-)
It's not that complex! You dont need any thought to hate someone, or to be scared, (Unless you make yourself hate someone, mabye by blaming them for something)
Hmmm.. When your scared, Fear is the first emotion to say to you "RUN AWAY!", if you did that than *that* would be instinct. If you had some self controll and used Imformation you gained over your life to handle the emotion in a differnt way, than thats reason. To sum it up, I think Instinct is your auto-reaction to an emotion of some sort.
*begins talking to myself* Chim chiminey, Chim chiminey, Chim chim cher-ee...
Ginny

No, emotions are different than both. An emotion is a REACTION to the way you react to an instinct or your common sense; it's a consequence of a consequence, if you will. And you do need thought to both hate AND love, because if you don't think then you have no reason to hate or love someone. Emotion is a completely different thing than instinct or common sense. Emotions only come after one or both of them. It's an individual concept. And fear is an emotion, true, but if your instinct tells you to run away and you feel fear, they probably occur within an instant of each other, but common sense is involved in that too because you're making a conscious decision on how to deal with the problem at hand.
Medic

No, you NEED hate, love, pain, all of the emotions to survive! Fear tells you to run away, not run away = fear! Really, find something that someone reasons without useing emotion. You are suppost to dislike pain, so you will avoide it- You body wants you to avoide pain because pain is telling you that something is damaging your chance to live!
I think your looking at emotions the wrong way, they are not just some side order on the main corse of life. Even being hungry is an emotion! Yes this is a great subject and all... But it is a subject that is very opinionated, I dont think anyone of us is making progress to convince one another OR even compermise. s.s
Ginny

Right, right, that's what I'm saying: you feel fear and simultaneously the conscious side of your brain is telling you to run away. And you do need all emotions to survive, that's what I'm saying. However, emotions ARE a reaction, because everyone feels differently about things-take this arguement, for example; you're feeling the emotions of frustration and irritation ((I assume)) while trying to convince me that your way is right. I however feel slightly amused and interested, because this is a topic I like to discuss. Therefore, you take one solid FACT that's already there, not distorted in either of our views, and then get a couple different reactions, otherwise known as EMOTIONS out of it.
Medic

Your emotions are like the nerves on your paw, it is more of a data collecter. But the problem is your body cant speak, so instead of "Hey, your arm is broken, might want to not use it much" it just sends you PAIN! You can not directly make emotions, but you can change other things that will affect your emotions in a certain way. (Punching a wall)
I do belive you need all emotions to survive, unless you can think of one or two...
You need emotions: Solid fact.

Do you know WHY you feel your emotions from this argument? Because you think you know much about. Because you think your "winning" or correct, your mind rewards you with happyness, or joy. (It does this because Beating someone else is a good thing survival wise) Your interested because you seek more joy, or happyness.

We are disgined more complex than you might think, Ginny. Everything in us has a reason, not to just make you "happy," but to allow you and your offspring to live.
>) I myself am enjoying this, lets go on...
FelixtheDWAF

OK This is Awsome I now have 3!!! Pages!!! thats like long kinda anyway I WANNA MAKE A Role Play BUT I don't know how to start off would someone wanta help me or make sujestions??
Medic

You ARE role playing right now! At least to me you are, but to a *pro* like Ginny you might not be.
All you need is a simple start, than you just keep linking more and more and more to it! It dosent need a topic, or even a theme. Find a conflict, or make one. >)
Subjects are guid lines for furs that cant trust their own imagination, and others.
Like that one with school? Do you have any idea how much I want to interupt! ANY IDEA?!.. But I wont. Too much fear now... (*Flash back *) o.o
ANYWAY, the best thing I can tell you- Adapt. Dont ignore others either, or what they do. It's a simple thing that keeps life interesting!
Than agean I cant RP, ask Ginny about that stuff. I just like to have fun!
Ginny

...Dude, Medic, I'm like three years older than you, don't be condescending to me, okay? Thanks.

I agree, yeah YOU NEED EMOTIONS, I've said that from the start. Every living thing has instincts and thus emotion. And your mind is not 'rewarding' you with happiness or joy or whatever, your mind is simply REACTING to what's going on around you with according emotion. The mind is not a living entity seperate from yourself ((scientifically speaking, that is. Dante and I believe something that may slightly contridict that, but whatever)), it is simply a bunch of brain tissue that releases different things according to what's going on in front of you. For instance; if something suddenly sets your nerves off, it registers in your conscious brain as the emotion 'fear', and tells your mind to release adrenaline, a chemical which basically puts everything in your body on overload so you can run faster, pull harder, whatever you need to do to get away from whatever is 'scaring' you. What it's TECHNICALLY doing is making your heart beat faster, your lungs contract quicker so you can take in more oxygen, and sending all your nerves into hyperdrive. On the other hand, if the person you like suddenly looks down and kisses you right on the lips, your brain reacts by sending a chemical known as endorphins ((sp?)) into your blood. This causes a similar reaction as adrenaline, but I don't know the details. It makes you happy, basically. But it isn't as though your mind has a mind of it's own; it's not going 'okay, she won, so I'll let her feel the emotion 'happy'' or anything. It's a bunch of chemicals and yucky bloody flesh.
Astralfox

I mat be a little late... but I do that somtimes... welcome! *waves on way back to den*
Medic

Oh ya thats great and all Ginny, you know what happens. But you dont know why.
Why would SP go into your blood? How would that help you! Your very funny Ginny, you know how something works, yet lack the knowlage on what it does and why it does it.
Yes, "It's a bunch of chemicals and yucky bloody flesh." That pile of mush is there for a reason, Ginny.
On a side note, I am back from NY! Also, your brain does reward you. Think of you as a little puppy dog, and your mind giving you treats when you do right or good thing, while scolding you for doing something bad.
NEW YORK CITY!
Ginny

OMG, I told you, I KNOW it's there for a freaking reason! The brain is not a seperate entity from you, it IS you, dammit, and while the brain itself is essentially chemicals, the MIND is what makes you yourself. Seriously, I know what happens AND i know why way more than you might think, and I'm in such a bad mood right now it isn't even funny. Stuff's going on in your mind that you have no idea about. It's scary, it's not right, and though it stays silent in most people there is insanity. You wanna know how that works? Two different ways-One, you get way overloaded with a specific type of chemical. Two, your emotions go so freaking crazy they basically explode your brain.

Give up, kid. This is seriously starting to piss me off. And believe me, it's really hard to make me angry.
killerlove

it is hard to make Gin-chan angry, so yea seriousy, give up, she knows what she's talking about, and there are other ways for insanity, but you dont need to know those, but believe me, seeing axe hacked corpses from who knows how long ago, thats one way, of course, its not like that's what i do in my free time, but lets not go into that, and of course, if you make me really angry like its going, i might just tell you how you can be smarter and stronger, course that would mean every single person like Ginny and a certain un named someone would be after me, so just dont make me mad any time soon Smile
Medic

^-^ Great!
Glad you get it for once.
"You're feeling the emotions of frustration and irritation ((I assume)) while trying to convince me that your way is right. I however feel slightly amused and interested, because this is a topic I like to discuss."
I love irony, it's so... Ironic.
I have no idea why your talking about insanity and chopped up bodies Killer love, I think that insanity is just a normal mind with REALLY screwed up reason. (Coconuts + Monkey = Flying Island)
Masquerade!
killerlove

you think my reasoning is screwed up? *blinks and giggles* nah, its not my reasoning, and Ginny, and teach, if ya read this, sorry i told him i would tell him that stuff, u know i wouldnt ;_; anyway, im not irritated yet =^.~= in fact, today is abrnormally good
Medic

Not you Killer! >.> Most of my post was for Ginny fox...
Who did you tell you would tell him stuff to who?
Killer, your post just confused me. Talking about super power than bodies hacked up with an axe and now your happy? ___/^^^\____ <-- This is a bridge, going over your post. Your OTHER post, not that post. Only cause I couldent understand it...
Sorry than! ^-^ I must get back to work, thank you!
killerlove

*takes a deep breath* never mind, we are way to off subject, everyone this was supposed to be a greeting not a debate, sorry Sad
Ginny

...omg. I'm so leaving this thread. Sorry, Fee, you know I love you to pieces ((in a friendly sort of way obviously)) but I don't think I can be here anymore.
Medic

Great Idea! Run away from your problems- good thinking Ginny.
I thought that it was topic you liked to talk about?!
Good point thow, off topic...
Welcome to Zfurry! ^-^
FoxOfMidnightFlames

I think I've figured you out, Medic. Whenever you're in an arguement you seem to just spout the same illogical points and just twist them around to make them look as though you have more things to support yourself. When in reality it's the same thing over again and you just keep repeating it until the person you're arguing is so infuriated that they just don't want to hear it anymore.
killerlove

K-chan give up, i said this thread is off topic, i agree with you, but its off topic, we need to keep it on topic or give it up, kay? sorry
Ginny

...no one calls her K-chan but ME, ya hear, artic?! NO ONE!!!








...just so you know. I shall go back to my silence now. ^^ K-chan, good points.
Medic

*sighs* ahhh yup... This was predictable! Think I said something about this a few posts up as well.
FOMF, great excuse for yourself. Problem is, one would get infurated because they knew the other was right, and themself unable to produce an argument that supports what they think so they deny the argument that the other presented to make theirs look correct. I suggest you find something that disproves the repeated statement while at the same time supports your own, much better at convincing others too.
Killer love, a topic is more like the subject of *now*. The Introduction was the starting topic, but that was at the start. The start was in the past and the past is not now so the topic is not of now but of then, making it ok to change topics. -Besides, your not helping much to stay on topic are you? Saying your off topic is not getting you back on topic.
Ginny, you could at least of filled that space with words that are likely to be ignored, but it would look better at least. Dissapearing will not solve anything, say what you want to say! (It's ok to flame me) ^-^
FoxOfMidnightFlames

Medic wrote:
Problem is, one would get infurated because they knew the other was right, and themself unable to produce an argument that supports what they think so they deny the argument that the other presented to make theirs look correct.


That's not the only reason someone would get infuriated. Apparently you have absolutely no idea what it's like to hear the same wrong facts repeatedly, no matter how much they reword it. Examle: I am by no means a racist. However, my little brother calls me so just for the fact that he thinks it's funny. He'll come into a room and say "Hey, Kara, why are you such a rasists?" or "Why are you (insert some ethnic group here)-hater?" The first few months that he started doing this, I would flare up and deny everything he said. But now I've gotten so annoyed and infuriated by the repetition of his false accusations that I've just stopped trying and let him talk to himself.
In your arguement with Ginny, you were using your intereptations of what emotions are while Ginny was using proven, factual evidence. If you don't believe me, print out the arguement and show it to a Bio teacher at your school and ask them which side has the right idea and I assure you that they'll tell you Ginny was in the right. However, if you continue to say that facts are wrong, that only shows you're the one who's really in denial about being wrong.
Medic

Given any proof your not racist? Facts are a good thing! Cant just say "I can fly" if you cant fly! (Get a tape recorder and record him making false statements about you, just an idea)
Fomf, I think you are confused. (As I am to you)
Overall I dont even think there was an "argument!" No clear question or position on anything.
(I dont know what I did this--->) G-I-N-N-Y, her statement (in 1 post) was 100% fact! BUT had nothing to do with the argument! It's like...
"Your a racist!" "No I am not!" "Natzies were raciest." "What? That has nothi-" "Racism is the belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others, and are a target of Discrimination or prejudice because of that." "?!"

See! That example was based on a situation between you and your brother.
Yourself, FOMF, trying to argure something you know is true. (I did!)
Your brother, is the one with the FACTS! They are related to racism but have nothing to do with the argument at hand.

When your brother said things about you that you know wernt true, it wasent a great feeling. How do you think I feel?! Your words became the same false accusations that annoyed and infuriated yourself..

As a wise rabbit once said-
A drunken grizzly will maul not the blind shoemaker.
killerlove

....Medic, FOMF Gin-chan last warning guys, i may not be a mod, but i did create this thread, and i do, and sadly do believe i can ask for a lock on it at any time... Sad
SXTC

I think that what might be going on here is BS

First off, age doesn't make you smarter (most older people I met were unaware idiots)
Second, racism only excists in the hands on those that give the word meaning by using the word over and over, those are the real racists. Although the word tends to get abused often, you can hit someone your own color but if you hit someone with another color they paste racism to it so that means they are the real racists (the ones calling someone else that way eventhough they diserved to be punished and the cause is not always color related as some make it seem to abuse the word to their own liking)
Thirdly and last I believe that the only one who claims to be more then just an idiot is capable of putting an end to such fights without expecting someone else to make the first step.

So I hope for anyone's sake that this wasn't a fight to begin with because I can see some negative vibes wich might be meant as flame towards one another and wich is NOT necessary.

anyhow welcome killerlove and sorry if they appear to have made you feel uncomfortable.
Medic

Ummm.. I think FOMF's brother labled her as a raciest to insult her, but that's just what I thought.
"All tigers should die." Is raciest I think, (if species were race) mainly because it targets the whole population of the species. Saying you are a tiger is not raciest! Because it's a fact, a turthfull fact! But than saying you should die because your a tiger, not so factfull and reasonable. Tigers have claws, your a tiger, you have claws! Right?

Hi killer love... Sorry if we/I have made you feel uncomfortable, like SXTC said.
SXTC

I personaly think they should beat the living shit out of any idiot that uses the word racist.
Because ever since they started calling others racists, discrimination has gone way up.

What if I am black? what If I am white? Does that mean anyone without my color that hits me is a racist wich Im allowed to disrespect?
Because where I come from a bastard that diserves a beating, white, black or any other color, still diserves to get their arses kicked. Its called justice and no person is somehow MORE then another wich is realy what racism realy is.. a race wich puts itself above another.
So if you call someone a racist every time they have something against you and you happen to be the oposite color, then that person who uses the word in this situation is the true racist wich today weve got plenty off.

Anyhow enough general talk...
Medic

If your black, your black! White, your white. Can not hide from the fact. But to judge someone's personality or anything based on these traits is wrong!
The actions someone performes is importain, but why they did that certain action is even more importain. Take, for example, Les Miserables.
Should all fights be treated the same in the face of justice? Does it matter if there fighting for money, fighting for power, fighting for themself, compared to fighting for life, fighting for friends, fighting for family, or even fighting for freedom? -Why- we do what we do is as much as importain as what we do in general.
(All above was a speech of agreement)

Yes yes, enough with the General talk, SXTC! Let's try to figure out WHY racism is built into our brains, I belive it to be a tool of survival, like emotions, that is used even by other species!
Wada you think?
killerlove

fine, someone lock this please, i'll make my cutie another welcome thread Sad
Medic

Who's your cutie agean? #.# Sorry but I forgot...
It is kind of hard and confusing to welcome somefur twice, it's more or less a one time thing. No offence..
FelixtheDWAF

Medic Who do you think??
Medic

I dont know! Thats why I asked. IDEA! *Rips away pages to get back to the start*
Let's see here... Ahha! Found it right here, see? *Shows Felix the page* There! In the first paragraph! ...Why that's you Felix! ^-^ Haha I solved the riddle!!! No prize...?
SXTC

I hope that to some "furs" here "cute" is not what it's all about, else its just sickening.

I want to be around real furs for once Sad no role players
Medic

O.O? Than tell me, Tiger, what makes fake fur real?
For he who's role is left unplayed would have no role at all!
-.- Life is not allways forgiving, so we celebrate when we get the chance, with the few things that we still have. ^"^ You dont really appreciate the life you have, do you?
killerlove

...before i get quite angry some one PLEASE lock this....
Medic

If the topic needs to be locked than it needs to be locked.
I.. Have been treating topics like they a chat room, but they are not. For this I am sorry.
FoxOfMidnightFlames

Stu, this thread doesn't need to be locked just because it's off topic. Forums are more or less like conversations and you can't expect a conversation to stay on one topic for its entire duration.

And I didn't intend to start a discussion about racism. I just used that as an example for the point I was proving.

Oh, wait. This post is off topic. So in order to make Stu happy:

Welcome, Felix *waves welcome flag*

Ok, I'm done now.
SXTC

SXTC wrote:
I hope that to some "furs" here "cute" is not what it's all about, else its just sickening.

I want to be around real furs for once Sad no role players


Medic wrote:
O.O? Than tell me, Tiger, what makes fake fur real?
For he who's role is left unplayed would have no role at all!
-.- Life is not allways forgiving, so we celebrate when we get the chance, with the few things that we still have. ^"^ You dont really appreciate the life you have, do you?


If you are a fur I do not have to tell you because you'd know.
And if you were you would not believe furry to be a role.
And your answer in wich you ask yet at the same time make seem as if I do not appreciate life, tells me you claim I should somehow be mentally unstable just because I give meaning to furry.
What realy annoys me in the fandom besides the fact that everyone seems centered on yiff, is that no one seems to know what furry is, yet at the same time claim to be what they can't explain wich sais more then enough.

killerlove wrote:
*takes a deep breath* never mind, we are way to off subject, everyone this was supposed to be a greeting not a debate, sorry Sad


killerlove wrote:
K-chan give up, i said this thread is off topic, i agree with you, but its off topic, we need to keep it on topic or give it up, kay? sorry


killerlove wrote:
....Medic, FOMF Gin-chan last warning guys, i may not be a mod, but i did create this thread, and i do, and sadly do believe i can ask for a lock on it at any time... Sad


killerlove wrote:
fine, someone lock this please, i'll make my cutie another welcome thread Sad


killerlove wrote:
...before i get quite angry some one PLEASE lock this....


I fully agree with what FoxOfMidnightFlames sais...

FoxOfMidnightFlames wrote:
Stu, this thread doesn't need to be locked just because it's off topic. Forums are more or less like conversations and you can't expect a conversation to stay on one topic for its entire duration.

And I didn't intend to start a discussion about racism. I just used that as an example for the point I was proving.

Oh, wait. This post is off topic. So in order to make Stu happy:

Welcome, Felix *waves welcome flag*

Ok, I'm done now.


Now from what I can see here killerlove is that you don't seem to give a damn about what others have to say. All you want is to be in the center of attention with your mate.
And yet you join a furry board eventhough you are not even a furry (else you would not use a human avatar and use a violent name, yet at the same time get annoyed with the opinion of others, nothing furry related in how you seem to act because us furries are like family, we care).
You make it very clear that you want whatever we might have to say to be in seperate topics, not in yours so you can ignore them without having to read what we have to say.

Me and my GF Arunake believe in descipline, honor, love...
and since we cannot stand to be around people who do not seem to respect, we both descided to take our leave to make room for you and your mate. Enjoy because we won't be around to mess up any of your precious topics no longer.

As for FoxOfMidnightFlames, you seem like a nice fur, your always welcome to pop by on my board where we won't tollerate this shit.
It's not as cool lookin as this one but its a start (moved to another host almost 2 months ago)

Oh and to the admins, sorry for the inconvenience because you seem to be a cute couple...
Although I'm very sensitive when it comes to being around others who seem to be unable to accept one another for who they are, not for what they might have to say to please what others want to hear...

I haven't got much time to be on other boards so I need them to be fully worth it (the members on it and how they are allowed to behave).

Goodbye
FelixtheDWAF

*giggles* Hey hun, I think SXTC just ate you..... and no my hun cares about others SXTC he just thought it was getting really off topic.. not that I mind that but whatever...
killerlove

Look SXTC, I AM FURRY, AND YOU KNOW WHAT? having a human avatar means NOTHING! as soon as ginny finished my commision then ill have a furry one! and sephrioth is only one of the best characters ever created, and my name? killerlove? ... you dont even deserve to know! im crying now, i dont want to be the center of attention, i wanted me mate to have some more furry friends, so i brought him here! IM CRYING, HAPPY? I HOPE YOU ARE BECAUSE ALL YOU ARE TO ME IS A SECOND BIT TROLL!
Ginny

Oy...
First of all, I wanna apologize real quick because it's sort of my fault on how badly this got outta hand. I shouldn't have let myself be sucked into such a random, dumb arguement. I started something ridiculous, and I'm taking responsiblity for it. I apologize to you all.

I've also got a few slight points to make here.

We could all do with giving each other a lot more respect. Hey, maybe some of us can't and never will be able to get along. That doesn't mean we gotta flame each other around every turn, and that's almost where we are! So yeah, we all wanted more users to the board, but now everyone's fighting, including myself! I'm almost ashamed to bring my mate here now...I don't think I will, actually, because I don't want him to have to be forced to take sides like the rest of us are.

Second of all, IT TAKES MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES OF READING A PAGE WORTH OF POST TO REPLY. Seriously, people. Besides, the majority of us are old enough to hold our own in a truly intelligent discussion-this is getting to be really immature. I'm sick of people having a go at one another every four seconds. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

This was the first place I ever joined that was furry, and the only one I've really stayed at. I don't want that ruined, please.
FelixtheDWAF

SXTC I don't know what our problem is but making my mate cry isn't helping First of all you were with him... Then It was complete and total backlash I don't care WTF your reasons were It wasn't nice, And you profiled which I thought was the one thing you wouldn't do and I respected you for... Other then that..... I don't know what to say after I got off the Sharpie fumes (I was coloring) I realized what you said really didn't understand how you could give such a rapid change in opinion
FelixtheDWAF

Im just going to drop the whole subject whatever even though... that was still mean
Medic

Oy oy Ginny! I belive you speek the most truth here in this fourm.
We are all here together, so mabye we should be kinder to oneanother.
I may not know for shure what a true furry is, or even if I am one at all- but I know this fourm is home, where we all belong as a family.
SXTC

Seeing as I noticed I still had this link in my favorites, I'll tell you this before removing this since you clearly do not seem to get it !

The fact that you get offended when I say your might not be a furry does not suprise me but it doesn't prove a thing. Everyone gets mad at anything these days. The problem is that everyone constantly thinks about themselves, they expect others should do for them what they want them to do.. want others to be like they want them to me.. ME ME ME.. thats what the world is based on.

But you fail to see that furry is not an opinion and there is only one translation. It is not my problem you get mad when instead you should prove to be what I don't expect you to be through a descent explenation of what you believe furry to be (since 80% of the fandom are fake).

But this is not the matter at hand. I couldn't care less what your reason might be why you claim to be a furry (and I hope its not for the dating purpose) wich might infact be the truth.

But the problem wich annoys me is the fact that no one seems to care about how others feel, all they care about is themselves and when they get offended, like the world should somehow be centered upon them.

Not to mention the fact that replies are usualy composed with the purpose of winning a so called verbal battle, putting the ball in others net, making it seem that they are wrong and you are right... This isn't about winning or losing but many fail to see that..

Sorry if I hurt your feelings but it is a fact that the mayority claims to be a furry, would walk over bodies to prove it wich is where they prove not to be a furry. Because furries don't fight to be called furries, they get badgered because they are.. (and ignored if they are the real deal).

Again sorry if I hurt your feelings, for all I know you might actualy be a real furry when you claim to be (wich everyone does so you must understand).
But I'm realy sensitive when some make it seem like what others have to say does not matter. My reply is fully based on what the situation seemed to be when I read the last couple of posts wich did indeed look very confusing.

As for me, I only did what I think was right. And from what I'm reading I was clearly right when I assumed respect was not something easily given on this board.

killerlove wrote:
IM CRYING, HAPPY? I HOPE YOU ARE BECAUSE ALL YOU ARE TO ME IS A SECOND BIT TROLL!


This is what I mean, I hurt someone's feelings and the first thing he thinks about is revenge... ME ME ME, if we feel hurt, whoever made us feel this way should pay right...
This is what I meant with expecting to be in the center of attention. Its a shame you'll prolly never understand because you don't care to see.
In your position I cannot be hurt with words because I don't love myself more then I should to expect I'm more then I actualy am wich isn't more then another.
So no one can bring me down because I'm allready at the bottom and proud for who I am, not for what I could be seen like through the eyes of others.
(I actualy feel offended when someone claims I'm nice because I believe its not up to anyone to judge)
But what DOES hurt me is that someone's behavior might not be in the best intrest of the people but instead for themselves.

I guess I shared my opinion wich I shouldn't have.. either you can spill your opinion and it can be discussed as adults without getting offended, or people get mad about everything said and there's no such thing as freedom of speech (if you don't want to get shot at).

So to make YOU feel better I believe an apoligy is in order.
Sorry for hurting YOUR feelings. If it conforts you, thats allready 2 down (me and my GF), only a few more to go who might not agree with how you treat others.

I will not be around to read this, you have my word on that and I've never broken it EVER.

(If you got plenty of time to waste, go ahead and reply but it will only serve as a mirror because you'll be the only one reading it, as for others who wish to talk about diffirent matters, you know my msn)

Farewell
Medic

I thought he was allready gone! But -now- he is.
The remark about killer, was a bit mean. SXTC says you think about you you you, when killer clearly posted: "I dont want to be the center of attention,"
Also strange that SXTC says the feelings of others matter, yet dosent care that Killer was crying... Insulting someone than saying sorry right after is not a great excuse.

SXTC has is own website with the definiton of a fur. Information not posted here due to respect for somefur..
arunake

well medic what do you mean with this response... just know, if you wanna hurt my bf, you have to pass me first, damn this hurts, he said sorry.. damn is that not good enough?? there is something like forgive eachother.. ow and i don't like it that you bring information from his board to this one
Medic

But...! x.x I thought you were gone Arunake? You posted it!
As glad as I am to see you, (Super "run around outside in a fit of joy" Glad) I -DO NOT- want to hurt your boyfriend, or anyone for that matter!
He said he was sorry, and now I say sorry to him and you. All I ask of you now is to accept my apology, and forgive me for what I have done, that is all I beg for.

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